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You have a right to your opinion and anything can happen in any race. I just dont see anyone beating Orb in the next 2. He looks the part physically and has been working out better. Reminds me of how much better I thought (and still think) Animal Kingdom was than the rest of his fields. That said though, it didn't work out for AK. I think Orb is the best horse no matter what post or track conditions are. But the best horse doesn't always win.

Asked by behindthecounterinasmalltown

Orb is the one to beat today. At Belmont, he’s advantaged to be at his home track, but he’s got some legit new shooters coming back for that race. Orb is at a much better position than Animal Kingdom was as a horse who doesn’t care where he is during the race, so with that said I think he does have a solid chance to win all three. He’s the best three-year-old right now, but then again, that’s not saying much… our hottest three-year-olds in the country (except Orb) fizzled in the Derby so badly it’s not even funny.

They’ll all be after him today, and again in June should he win today. ORB SHOULD BE ABLE TO WIN AND WIN EASILY TODAY, but I reserve any mention of the Triple Crown until later on tonight.

I'm not even rooting for Orb to win the triple crown. He's been a firm favourite of mine since the Fountain of Youth. I'm just rooting for him to have a good race and come home to the finish line safe. Win or lose, Orb will still be my favourite American horse, hell even if he didn't win the Kentucky Derby he would be. You just click with some horses like you do boyfriends haha

Asked by nicoledowland

That… is one hell of an excellent way to put it. Orb never gave me the same romantic vibe some other horses in the past gave me, and no one this year has really enthralled me in the Triple Crown preps.

Thanks for your input, Nicole, no really… :) I’d like to witness a Triple Crown winner myself, BUT I WANT TO SEE HIM WORK FOR IT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. If it doesn’t happen today, it’ll happen in June.

The problems I have with "Orb people"

  • Me: It was a good race and he deserved to win, but don't you think Orb is getting a little too much hype for the Triple Crown? I mean, he still has two more races and by the looks of things, he hasn't a choice post position for the Preakness which will be run on a fast track, then you've got the Belmont which presents its own challenges...
  • Orb supporters: WTF WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WANT A TRIPLE CROWN ALL OF A SUDDEN GODDAMN SORRY FOR GETTING EXCITED OMFG WET BLANKET
Orb (Photo by HRTV)

Orb (Photo by HRTV)

The problem with Itsmyluckday is how the trainer has kidgloved him since that big win over Shanghai Bobby. 1:43 for a mile heading into the Kentucky Derby? That wasn't a good sign. Neither was the 4 F work over 50 seconds. The trainer thought he did the right thing...but he probably dulled him a bit.

Asked by thoughtsonracinglifeandmore

BACKSEAT TRAINER DISEASE IS BACK, EVERYONE! ;P

I’m so game to use Itsmyluckyday somehow tomorrow, the colt is looking cranked. I think Orb is better, but neither one got an optimal post position and I still don’t know the depth of Lucky’s ability for sure… Gulfstream’s been way too fast and Shanghai Bobby wasn’t anything to applaud.

Handicapping the race today, but yeah, perhaps you are right. Plesa might have had a better horse on deck if he worked him a bit harder. Lucky wasn’t up to speed in the Florida Derby after a longer-than-usual layoff and wasn’t ready to go.

Orb’s Biggest Threat is Not a “New Shooter”

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Less than two weeks ago, Shug McGaughey’s Orb logged a decisive win in the Kentucky Derby, splashing home in the mud to outkick them all as clearly the best horse in the field. While I am still weighing whether or not he can win the elusive Triple Crown, confidence is high that he can win the Preakness in equally easy fashion. However, now that everyone is acutely aware of the horse to beat, Orb does have a few horses to beat, and his main challenge looks to be none other than Itsmyluckyday.

Both “Lucky” and Orb found themselves in my top 5 Derby list, and while Orb proved superior that day, Lucky has been showing signs he’s back to fighting trim and looks dangerous on a fast, dry track.

The son of Lawyer Ron logged an impressive final breeze at Monmouth this week, sweeping over the New Jersey track easy-peasy to register 4 panels in :47 1/5, out 5 furlongs in :59 3/5 with regular Elvis Trujillo aboard for the work, which was held between the 3rd and 4th races. The colt spun his first quarter in a rapid :23.8 and the second in :23.4 seconds. All in hand. Did I mention that the titanic John Velazquez has been booked to ride Lucky on Saturday?

Meanwhile, Orb finished up his short vacation at Belmont Park with a final and promising work before boarding the Sallie horse van to Pimlico. The Derby winner looked every bit as relaxed and sharp as he was in his final work before the Kentucky Derby, logging a :47 1/5 half mile (just a hair fractionally slower than Lucky) and was out in :59.54 without urging. Orb’s first quarter was clocked in :24.47, and really hit his best, most reaching stride late visually. The clock agreed with the second quarter clocked in :22.71.

Orb looks the picture of perfection right now, but may be up to a new challenge in the form of shipping to a new track again and facing horses who may fare better now that mud is out of the picture. It will be tough to outgame him and outfoot him, but a few horses in this field might be able to do it with the right trip. Itsmyluckyday is especially threatening as a pace stalker with a big stretch run lying in wait.

At the moment, these are my exacta horses, with new shooter and Illinois Derby winner Departing and 5th place horse Mylute bringing up the tail of the second jewel. Departing and Mylute both had easy maintenance works to prepare for the race. I think highly of both, especially as improving horses, but do not put them in the winning spot. As for “overrated” entries, Will Take Charge takes the cake.

My 2011 Kentucky Derby horse: Nehro, who finished 2nd.
It was my first time trying to legitimately handicap the Derby, and overall, not a bad job! Nehro became my horse after his rushing 2nd in the Arkansas Derby (I). He showed great tenacity when almost-beating my pick Archarcharch, who unfortunately drew the rail post in the Derby. It kind of sucked not being able to go to the Belmont that year because I wanted to see “my” horse as well as Animal Kingdom in the flesh, but hey maybe someday he’ll show up again around here! (Photo Courtesy of Zayat Stables)

My 2011 Kentucky Derby horse: Nehro, who finished 2nd.

It was my first time trying to legitimately handicap the Derby, and overall, not a bad job! Nehro became my horse after his rushing 2nd in the Arkansas Derby (I). He showed great tenacity when almost-beating my pick Archarcharch, who unfortunately drew the rail post in the Derby. It kind of sucked not being able to go to the Belmont that year because I wanted to see “my” horse as well as Animal Kingdom in the flesh, but hey maybe someday he’ll show up again around here! (Photo Courtesy of Zayat Stables)

I heard you like D. Wayne Lukas entries, so we put one on top of the other so you can Lukas while you Lukas… okay, I’m not good with this meme. Will Take Charge overpowered stablemate Oxbow in the Rebel Stakes (II). (Photo by Coady Photography)

I heard you like D. Wayne Lukas entries, so we put one on top of the other so you can Lukas while you Lukas… okay, I’m not good with this meme. Will Take Charge overpowered stablemate Oxbow in the Rebel Stakes (II). (Photo by Coady Photography)

Derby Dozen #1: Orb

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(Malibu Moon x Lady Liberty, by Unbridled)

  • Trainer: Shug McGaughey (Hymn Book, Easy Goer, My Flag)
  • Jockey: Joel Rosario (5th last year on Creative Cause)
  • Owned by: Stuart S. Janney III & Phipps Stable
  • Record: 7-4-0-1
  • Earnings: $921,050
  • Top speed figure(s): 97 Beyer, 101 Equibase

Background: The bay colt represents the legendary Shug McGaughey’s latest (not that there has been many in recent years) attempt to capture racing’s biggest event, with decades passed since Easy Goer came within breathing distance of capturing both the Derby and the Preakness. Orb stamped himself as a solid competitor after turning three, and represents some of racing’s oldest names with McGaughey training, carrying the silks of the Janneys (Stuart Janney III’s father owned Ruffian among others), and bred by the illustrious Phipps family.

Prep Schedule: A perfect example of why waiting and seeing is often the best yardstick for measuring Derby potential; Orb was slow to understand racing but showed some grit in his two-year-old year, debuting 3rd at Saratoga in a race won by Violence after breaking slowly from the gate and trailing. After misbehaving and enduring more trouble, he broke his maiden on his 4th try at Aqueduct in December, ousting the talented Freedom Child and Revolutionary going a mile. As a three-year-old he has won three straight and all at Gulfstream including the Florida Derby (I) and the Fountain of Youth (II) preps. With two comfortable, confident-looking wins at 9 furlongs, Orb remains right on track.

Pedigree: Sire Malibu Moon— by A.P. Indy and out of a nice Mr. Prospector mare— had a very short-lived career but has spawned plenty of routers as well as sprinters in a successful stud career. Dam Lady Liberty is by Unbridled, who is quickly becoming a top broodmare sire (G1 winners Shackleford, Tapit, Dream Rush) and major influencer in the three-year-old classics (traced in Real Quiet, Victory Gallop, Empire Maker, Red Bullet, and more). Lady Liberty’s dam Mesabi Maiden won the Black Eyed Susan (lI). TrueNicks Rating: A, Variant 2.65

Running Style: Off-the-pace

Pros: Orb appears to be a safe sell all around, with McGaughey representing some of the best training outfits in the country despite not having a lot of Derby contenders. Orb appears to be peaking right on time and runs well within himself to extend to 10 furlongs.

Cons: Regular rider Johnny V breaks up with Orb in favor of the brilliantly fast Verrazano, which may give that horse a tactical advantage over Orb. Orb also favors an off-the-pace running style, which a lot of other horses are looking to get which could lead to cramped conditions. Also worth noting: filly Dreaming of Julia scampered 9 furlongs in 1:48.97 while Orb took 1:50.87— about a 10-length difference.

Final Word: Likely to be the second favorite to Verrazano in the betting, Orb should have a place in everyone’s top 5 picks, doing little wrong since the start of the year with room to grow after defeating several worthy horses on the trail already. He has talent, the right connections, and above all, the right fitness and mentality to get the job done.

That awkward moment when Goldencents becomes a G1 winner. (Photo by HRTV)

That awkward moment when Goldencents becomes a G1 winner. (Photo by HRTV)

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